Considering a switch from Premiere/After Effects to Vegas/HitFilm

MatthiasClaflin
MatthiasClaflin Posts: 674 Just Starting Out

So, I guess I should re-introduce myself.

I purchased FxHome's Effects Lab Lite 10 years ago (maybe) which was my introduction to filmmaking. I frequented the old FxHome forums as "Biblmac" (some may remember me, some may not).  I moved from Sony Vegas 9 to Adobe when CC came out. However, I've had lots of issues with my hardware when it comes to Adobe. This is because Adobe hates AMD processors and I refuse to buy Intel (sorry). Beyond this I've had several issues in after effects with pulling a clean key (even with an evenly lit green screen, even when shooting 422 prores, even when shooting 4k, etc) because I find that Keylight handles hair poorly. I remember having great success with Hitfilm in the past and loving it's chroma key tools (back when I was using Hitfilm Express 4).

That said, I want to replace everything (except photoshop and lightroom) from my current Adobe workflow. Most of my corporate work is either A. Chroma Key or B. Motion Graphics. Though I'm not proficient at After Effects, my skills are sufficient to get done the chroma keying and motion graphics I need to do. I believe I could save some money and headache if I switched to a Vegas/Hit Film workflow (as opposed to Premiere and After Effects).

I'm downloading the trial of Hitfilm Pro and Vegas now. I know most people here will tell me that I need to try out all the software before I can make a decision (which is a good answer) but I'm really here to get advice from others who may have made the switch or those who use Hitfilm for motion graphics. What is your experience with Hitfilm? Is it an adequate replacement for AE? Should I just get the Ignite Plugin for Vegas or is Hitfilm Pro Standalone worth the extra money? I'm really interested in those who have experience with both Hitfilm and AE.

Thanks!

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  • Triem23
    Triem23 Posts: 20,061 Ambassador

    I shifted from Adobe to Hitfilm/Vegas years ago and never looked back. 

    Get Ignite Express (free) for Vegas, but Hitfilm can do 3D stuff in its sleep Vegas can't hope to touch. 

  • MatthiasClaflin
    MatthiasClaflin Posts: 674 Just Starting Out

    Ah. All the motion graphics I create (typically) are created in 3D. Mostly because I think it is easier to create natural looking shadows by creating 3d layers and setting up a light than it is to try and add the same depth with 2d layers.

    Just playing with HitFilm last night I remember why I love the keying tools. Way more intuitive than after effects and much easier to get a good key. Just the few motion graphics tools I played with were also very easy. Seemed to run a little slower than AE on my machine but I assume that's just because I have quite the out of date graphics card (most of what Adobe does is CPU instead of GPU so I've always ignored my GPU.)

    The only thing I'm struggling with now is losing my lumetri color panel (probably added after you left Adobe.) I may just decide to buy a plug in to replace it. Haven't decided yet, but it's only been a day. I do like the hitfilm color options, I just really don't like the vegas options.

  • Triem23
    Triem23 Posts: 20,061 Ambassador

    Ignite gives you Hitfilm color tools in Vegas, so there's a bit of "Best of both worlds."

    The devs have made great improvements in Hitfilm's editor since you were last using it, but Vegas is much better as a pure editor, while Hitfilm is a much superior compositor and VFX program  but (repeating myself) Ignite will bring Hitfilm's awesome color filters into Vegas. 

  • MatthiasClaflin
    MatthiasClaflin Posts: 674 Just Starting Out

    Good to know. If Hitfilm had a solid set of audio tools (like vegas or Adobe audition) and a good multi cam editor, I'd never leave the software. However, those two things are crucial to my workflow. 

  • Triem23
    Triem23 Posts: 20,061 Ambassador
  • MatthiasClaflin
    MatthiasClaflin Posts: 674 Just Starting Out

    Is there any integration with Hitfilm and Vegas? That would allow me to send files back and forth without rendering? Or is this too much to hope for?

  • Andersen01498
    Andersen01498 Posts: 1,004 Enthusiast

    @MatthiasClaflin Yes there is....in vegas right-click on vegas track and click the option add hitfilm effect

  • MatthiasClaflin
    MatthiasClaflin Posts: 674 Just Starting Out
  • Stargazer54
    Stargazer54 Posts: 3,426 Ambassador

     @MatthiasClaflin You posted the same question in two different threads.  I have removed the one with the title: "Interested in moving away from Adobe (Possibly to HitFilm)".   Please refrain from posting the same question twice.

  • Hictor
    Hictor Posts: 377 Enthusiast

    MatthiasClaflin  I should note that Hitfilm does have an Audio Sync feature that Vegas pro does not. Typically, you'd have to resort to plural eyes.

    There are still instances when I'd have to revert back to After Effects; mainly, its ability to work its PSD's which can be crucial at times.

    Rendering separate PNG files to layer the motion graphic can be quite tedious and costly.

    But I have faith this issue won't endure for much longer.

  • Andersen01498
    Andersen01498 Posts: 1,004 Enthusiast

    @Hictor I hope Fx home will allow us to add psd files into the workflow 

  • Triem23
    Triem23 Posts: 20,061 Ambassador

    @Andersen01498 I believe it's a money issue. Adobe charges a LOT of money to license out PSD files for commercial software, and it would noticeably raise the price of Hitfilm. 

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