Mp4 vs. AVI

CalebK
CalebK Website User Posts: 435
Hello i have some full hd 1080p film from my camera that is almost ready for editing.  However i still need to decide what takes i like.  Now on my computer i can see the movie in the file viewer if its .mp4 but not if its .avi.  Furthermore i am not using the audio from the camera (i had a boom mike) and i will be doing most of the editing in hit film.  Should i convert it to mp4 with handbrake or keep it avi?

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  • Nate066
    Nate066 Website User Posts: 191
    edited January 2014
    Hello i have some full hd 1080p film from my camera that is almost ready for editing.  However i still need to decide what takes i like.  Now on my computer i can see the movie in the file viewer if its .mp4 but not if its .avi.  Furthermore i am not using the audio from the camera (i had a boom mike) and i will be doing most of the editing in hit film.  Should i convert it to mp4 with handbrake or keep it avi?

    It wont matter any both codecs would be 64bit and if you did covert it they will both be exactly the same quality. I would just leave it as mp4. And to play .avi and a ton of other formats and convert files you can use vlc  http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html
     

  • Triem23
    Triem23 Moderator Moderator, Website User, Ambassador, Imerge Beta Tester, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 19,791 Ambassador
    http://community.hitfilm.com/index.php?/topic/1573-video-compression-vs-performance/
    I am going to disagree with Nate here. Mp4 (usually in h.264) isa very compressed format and takes a lot of computer power to decode. It not intended for editing.
    Now, "AVI" (and MOV and MP4) is a "container", so there are still different codecs possible even between two files with the same extention. Still, most avi codecs are lower compression and will run more smoothly in Hitfilm.
    Finally, read the forum thread linked above. It's a more detailed discussion of what I said above.
    I will agree with Nate that VLC is a great tool and is my preferred media player.
  • Triem23
    Triem23 Moderator Moderator, Website User, Ambassador, Imerge Beta Tester, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 19,791 Ambassador
    http://blogs.telestream.net/screenflow/2012/04/save-yourself-frustration-use-editing-formats-when-editing/ Also, this article will cut to the chase and go into the technical reasons so many codec discussions on this site end with "go for DNxHD."
  • MatthiasClaflin
    MatthiasClaflin Website User Posts: 674 Just Starting Out
    I agree with Triem. If you can, shoot to and edit in AVI as opposed to mp4. I have been using AVCHD for a while now (which shoots to either .mts.) Which is a highly compressed format and when compared to using something like ProRes (.mov), AVCHD doesn't stand a chance. Much more information in the ProRes package than the AVCHD, meaning betting color grading abilities. However if I try to playback a ProRes footage in full quality on my compute, it does lag a bit due to file size. It's quite ridiculous.
    For editing, AVI would be your best bet. For delivery, mp4 is your best bet (h.264 that is).
  • rgbii
    rgbii Website User Posts: 965 Just Starting Out
    As mentioned by Triem23 and Matthias, both DNxHD and ProRes are much better for editing, though the higher bitrates can still cause some lag.   If this is the case, I'd recommend editing with the lower bitrates of each (ProRes Proxy or DNxHD 36), and when you are ready for a final render, replace them with higher bitrate versions.
  • MaxRat
    MaxRat Website User Posts: 1
    For playing, I always use VLC, it plays just everything you thrown in.
    As for editing, AVI would be a nice format for that stuff, then convert to mp4 conainer file which is widely accepted for most of devices and game consoles.
    http://www.appgeeker.com/how-to/convert-avi-to-mp4-mac.html
  • Thomasone
    Thomasone Website User Posts: 3

    I think both of them are same.  But I like MP4 more. Actually, you can change the video formats with some video converters. I found some freeware on http://www.adoreshare.com/freeware.html

    Maybe it can help you