AT-AT 3D Model Point Rig in Hitfilm

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  • zach_alan
    zach_alan Website User, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 446 Enthusiast

    Ok! Here's another test. This time I adjusted the shadow angle, color, and opacity. The lights colors are sampled from the picture as @Triem23 said. Also the ambient light and model's diffuse reflectivity are reduced, making the AT-AT's front darker. 

  • tddavis
    tddavis Moderator, Website User Posts: 4,564 Moderator

    @ZCC_Productions  Good job making the changes. It's looking even better.

  • Stargazer54
    Stargazer54 Moderator Moderator, Website User, Ambassador, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 3,014 Ambassador
  • JMcAllister
    JMcAllister Website User Posts: 599 Just Starting Out

     looks great!

  • zach_alan
    zach_alan Website User, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 446 Enthusiast
    edited February 2017

    Here it is again! This time with the stopping and looking both ways animation...

  • Triem23
    Triem23 Moderator Moderator, Website User, Ambassador, Imerge Beta Tester, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 19,022 Ambassador

    Success! That looks spot on! The only critique anyone could have is the AT-AT is technically too small, but you've got it sitting correctly in the environment, you've got the lighting matched up, and the composite and animation are solid! 

    I almost think you should duplicate the AT-AT, push the duplicate over in 3D space and scale it up to proper height. The big AT-AT is "Mom" and the small AT-AT is "Junior." Then it becomes a shot about a "child" being taught RR Crossing safety! 

  • tddavis
    tddavis Moderator, Website User Posts: 4,564 Moderator

    @ZCC_Productions  Wow!  I am so jealous.  I wouldn't even begin to attempt all the animating involved in making an AT AT walk, but you've got it down.  Good work.

  • zach_alan
    zach_alan Website User, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 446 Enthusiast

    Thanks guys. I couldn't have gotten this far without all of your help, tips and suggestions! Good idea @Triem23 , now that I have the rig it's as easy as duplicating the AT-AT model, increasing the scale and moving it over. Now for some sound effects....

  • Stargazer54
    Stargazer54 Moderator Moderator, Website User, Ambassador, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 3,014 Ambassador

    @ZCC_Productions Awesome!  Excellent work.

  • spydurhank
    spydurhank Moderator, Website User, Ambassador, Imerge Beta Tester, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 2,956 Ambassador

    @ZCC_Productions Love that shadow!!! Very nice job. :)

  • Palacono
    Palacono Website User, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 3,445 Enthusiast
    edited February 2017

    Looks great and really sits in the scene convincingly. :)

    Only thing I really noticed is the motion of the 'left-right-forward' look when it paused is linear and would probably look better with smoother motion (even though the idea of moving the head to look is a weird concept anyway...look out of the side windows guys! ;) ) Although if you're going to zoomorphise the AT-AT: convincing head movement will sell it better.

    Really pedantic point: would/should it pause with one leg up? I know the answer is: "Yes, if you don't want to have to animate it coming to a complete stop, then start up again!", so...I wouldn't worry about that. :D

  • Triem23
    Triem23 Moderator Moderator, Website User, Ambassador, Imerge Beta Tester, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 19,022 Ambassador

    @Palacono Well, of course the walker is a very silly idea, anyway. My old "Empire Strikes Back Sketchbook" had good ol' Joe Johnston's original designs, which were basically a standard tank. In-Universe (i.e. George Lucas's edict), the AT-AT has it's truly impractical shape because of a psychological warfare component. The AT-AT is supposed to be animalistic--hence silly things like a turning head, and, oh yeah, BEING A WALKER!.

    I mean if that thing had been designed as a tank or hovertank in the first place, nothing the Rebels could have done would have mattered...

    Found it! Also note the more "asian" influence on the Snowtrooper design. Vader and all the Empire military armor originally had a more "samurai" look to them. Vader kept most of his, while varied Troopers mostly became stylized skeletons.

    Oh, and this.

     

  • Palacono
    Palacono Website User, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 3,445 Enthusiast
    edited February 2017

     The poor guys in the head must get awful motion sickness... "Buckle up guys, I'm going to look to the left. Let's hope there are no cables below us because otherwise we're screwed". 

  • zach_alan
    zach_alan Website User, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 446 Enthusiast

    Here it is, this time with a mother and child! @Triem23

    @Palacono I sorta see what you mean, but this shot isn't really meant to be 100% accurate and is just for fun. The AT-ATs are supposed to be like their own character. The head turning is set to smooth for now, but if I did a more serious fan-film I would spend more time adjusting the movement, scale, etc.

  • Palacono
    Palacono Website User, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 3,445 Enthusiast

    I love it. "Mummy, are you sure it's safe to cross here? OK then...." :D

    Smoother is much better. You could potentially jank on those bezier handles to make it slooooow down as it approaches the stop point at each endpoint - to demonstrate that the head is heavy and needs to decelerate - but really, it's 98% there, so now I'm just being picky, picky, picky. ;)

  • Triem23
    Triem23 Moderator Moderator, Website User, Ambassador, Imerge Beta Tester, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 19,022 Ambassador

    Love it! I actually am fine with tge somewhat jerky head motion. It's closer to the look of the stop-motion work in ESB. 

    I think it's time for dust impacts, and (at least for mama) road damage. 

    Take a look at this old HF2U tutorial. Good hints for dust impacts and ground damage. 

  • TriFlixFilms
    TriFlixFilms Website User Posts: 925 Just Starting Out
    edited February 2017

    You updated it faster than I could toss this together lol

    • Color Grade
    • Depth of field
    • Crappy hand held effect (if I had more time I would have done it manually)
    • Black Bars
  • Triem23
    Triem23 Moderator Moderator, Website User, Ambassador, Imerge Beta Tester, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 19,022 Ambassador

    @TriFlixFilms nice handheld motion. Your AT-AT is overlit like ZCC's early render. Recheck your control map/mask for your DoF blur. Look at the left side gate. You have the far part of the gate blurring, but the AT-AT farther away is still pin sharp. I do like the vibrance of the grade. 

  • zach_alan
    zach_alan Website User, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 446 Enthusiast

    @Triem23 thanks for the tutorial. Will check that out now.. And I think @TriFlixFilms just downloaded my earlier render from Youtube to prove his concept. And I was thinking of doing a grade similar to yours, with camera shake as well. Probably for the final version.

  • TriFlixFilms
    TriFlixFilms Website User Posts: 925 Just Starting Out

    Sometimes when I do vfx I absolutely hate my results, but as soon as I color grade and add my 'cinematic' elements it ties it all together. What I am getting at is... your project is already amazing so everything from this point forward is just taking it above and beyond.

    Great work! Cant wait to see it when its complete.

  • zach_alan
    zach_alan Website User, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 446 Enthusiast

    Thanks @TriFilxFilms

    For now I will just add sound, camera shake with each of the big walker steps, and maybe some cinematic elements. The ground impact technique listed by @Triem23 would look good, but would not be fun for this shot as there is 2 walkers. But I might make a Star Wars fan-film soon, so having this rig and animation will be great, and the things I've learned along the way will help to!

     

  • Andersen01498
    Andersen01498 Website User, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 981 Enthusiast

    @ZCC_Productions where did you get the model?

  • zach_alan
    zach_alan Website User, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 446 Enthusiast

    @Andersen01498 I got it from CGTrader

    https://www.cgtrader.com/free-3d-models/space/spaceship/at-at-0ec13812d08eb1b6d46717e726cac367

    However, it isn't the best because on the back right leg I think it is, one of the parts of the upper hip are connected to part of the walker's back side, so when you animate that part the back moves as well. It's weird, but if you use a more forward camera angle it's okay for being free...

  • Andersen01498
    Andersen01498 Website User, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 981 Enthusiast

     @Triem23 @ZCC_Productions  I opened the model in 3ds max and there is no geometry error

  • tddavis
    tddavis Moderator, Website User Posts: 4,564 Moderator

    @ZCC_Productions  Holy crap!  I was impressed with your animation before, but just downloaded the model you used and with all the parts there I am even more so.  I do not know how you managed to get that thing to even lift a leg let alone make it walk.  I clicked through all the parts on importing into Hitfilm and did not see anything amiss on that right rear leg either as they turned red when selected.  If it was me doing, I would hazard a guess that I missed clicking on one to animate it when I imported and then it's stuck like that. I'm sure that's not the case in your instance though. My hat is off to you.

  • Triem23
    Triem23 Moderator Moderator, Website User, Ambassador, Imerge Beta Tester, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 19,022 Ambassador

    @Andersen01498 ZCC says when he tries amimating the right/rear leg it pulls part of the body with it. 

    Haven't looked at the model myself, but, based on what tddavis just wrote, it's possible ZCC made an error when parsing the animation groups? 

  • zach_alan
    zach_alan Website User, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 446 Enthusiast

    @Triem23 Nope. When I import the model, one of the highlighted red parts is the back and part of the leg. Might try re-downloading it though. Or if it works in 3Ds Max @Andersen01498 is there a way to share the model that works?

  • Andersen01498
    Andersen01498 Website User, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 981 Enthusiast

    Yah I can export the model as an obj file 

  • zach_alan
    zach_alan Website User, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 446 Enthusiast

    @Andersen01498 is there a way I could download it?

  • Andersen01498
    Andersen01498 Website User, HitFilm Beta Tester Posts: 981 Enthusiast

    Yah I'll upload soon as possible 

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